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    Paipo build

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    sinclairio

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    Paipo build

    Post  sinclairio on Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:28 am

    So I've bought some cedar for board build for a winter project, Well oct!
    I've gone for cedar planks from eBay £15! There's 5 lengths @ 25x200x1800. So I'm thinking, a board in the region of using two planks to get a 25x400x120-150 then shape it. Going to use a biscuit cutter to get strong joints, but going to cut the 200's into 95's so I don't have one central joint, or do you think maybe a ash or other stringer? Any advice, shapes hints wud be ace!

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    piskian

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    Re: Paipo build

    Post  piskian on Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:37 am

    I'd say keep the shape in the pic,and the tartan tape job.
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    sinclairio

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    Re: Paipo build

    Post  sinclairio on Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:06 am

    piskian wrote:I'd say keep the shape in the pic,and the tartan tape job.
    As ever so insightful and so much help! Fecking muggles!
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    The Pilgrim

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    Re: Paipo build

    Post  The Pilgrim on Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:47 am

    Hi all. responding on me phone as laptop is dead so please forgive my english.
    No need to biscuit joint as a butt joint will be more than strong enough.
    I used to glue up with balcotan but they have stopped importing it so just use a good quality pu adhesive
    add a stringer if you want but it does not add any structural strenght to either wood of foam blanks until you go over 7ft
    My paipos start at 3.5ft but i find best around 4- 4 1/2 ft and between 15 & 19" wide.
    rail shape is super important if you want the board to hold in the wave face same applys for entry shape/hull and concave
    Have a hunt in the archive for a few of mine and feel free to drop me a message if you need some help
    cheers pj
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    matt23

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    Re: Paipo build

    Post  matt23 on Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:00 pm

    Did you get that from Danny at the fencing place, just got a load of that myself. What shape are you planning?

    Joe have you tried this?



    http://marinestore.co.uk/Collano_Semparoc_60_Wood_Glue__Balcotan_replacement_.html





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    GRAYMAN

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    Re: Paipo build

    Post  GRAYMAN on Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:05 pm

    For my two penneth, I'd say use the rail profile from that one of mine you've got but follow the rail shape through to the tail rather than going to the hard dropped edgevat the tail.

    That board also has a very subtle concaves at the nose and tail.

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    The Pilgrim

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    Re: Paipo build

    Post  The Pilgrim on Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:05 am

    That glue looks the business, just invested in a set of clampo panel clamps from rutlands to ensure that the glue up is square. who's selling cedar!!! I need to get hold of a load for a wigwam project. cheers pj
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    matt23

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    Re: Paipo build

    Post  matt23 on Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:41 pm

    I did take at look at those clamps and decided Id need a shed first Wink Ill email you the details of the cedar, really sound bloke aswell Smile
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    The Pilgrim

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    Re: Paipo build

    Post  The Pilgrim on Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:48 am

    Ping me those details Matt, going to put an extension on the workshop tomorrow as I've run out of space because of all the crap I've collected out the skips from the boat yard : )
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    sinclairio

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    Re: Paipo build

    Post  sinclairio on Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:29 pm

    I just put cedar timber in eBay and a dude in Halifax was selling off cuts!
    G as ever I will use you as my inspiration in board build as I do in my life!

    Peace to all!
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    matt23

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    Re: Paipo build

    Post  matt23 on Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:31 pm

    Hows the build going?
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    sinclairio

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    Re: Paipo build

    Post  sinclairio on Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:51 am

    So I've actually managed to do some more on the Paipo, jack No3 planed the edges square, got my biscuit cutter out and cut 8 slots using a size 10 biscuit. It's been gorilla glued marine grade and been braced up by wedging wood from my ceiling on to the edge! Very Cornish!

    G can u post those pics for me as my iPhone doesn't allow me to do it... Even if it did, I just can't cope with the pic uploads!
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    sinclairio

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    Re: Paipo build

    Post  sinclairio on Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:20 am

    Disaster, glue turns out it was out of date so as soon as I got it out of the mock clamp, I tested it by trying to snap the joint! Just opened up like my sister! Sticky wet, n dripping like an egg sandwich..... BOOM! But yh actually fun that it went wrong. New glue needed!
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    GRAYMAN

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    Re: Paipo build

    Post  GRAYMAN on Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:00 am

    Classic.

    Here're the pics

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    IN MY QUIVER:
    "G" Custom Surfmats:
    G-Mar 13, AKA "Lucky". (70/70d, 3 pontoon with Vulkem Stippleback Grip)
    G-Mat 12, AKA "Geoffrey". (100x70/70d, 3 pontoon with Vulkem Stippleback grip)
    G-Mat 11, AKA "Casper". (70/70d, 4 pontoons with Vulkem Stippleback grip)
    G-Mat 10, AKA "Mr Hankey ". (70/70d, 4 pontoons with Vulkem Stippleback grip)
    G-Mat 7, AKA "Kenneth". (70/70d, 3 pontoons with Vulkem Stippleback grip)
    G-Mat 5, AKA "The Displexperiment". (200/70d, 4 pontoons with Vulkem Stippleback grip)
    4GF Blue Streak Standard (S-FAHT Stippleback grip)
    Traditional Surfing Co "Da Bomb" Bellyboard
    "G" 9mm ply Narrow Guitar Pick Paipo, AKA "Sputnik"
    "G" 9mm ply Paipo, AKA "Jumbo-Belly-Girl"
    "G" 9mm ply Micro-Paipo/Jumbo-Handplane, AKA "The Traipo"



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    sinclairio

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    Re: Paipo build

    Post  sinclairio on Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:38 am

    Cheers fella

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